Tuesday, 12 March 2013

Hungary gives the finger

Whenever you get the US, the EU, that fucking monstrosity the European Court of Human Rights and the MSM everywhere uniting in faux outrage, as they did following recent  developments in Hungary, well you know the target must be doing something right.  What do these worthies object to?  'It's an attack on democracy' they trill. Presumably the Obama administration was able to keep a straight face when making that claim. 'They're undermining the independence (sic) of the media'.  I swear, they actually said that. And it seems the government is also unilaterally changing the country's constitution and forcing foreign power companies to lower their prices.

So how was Hungarian democracy destroyed this time?  Tanks moving through the streets? Assassination of leading politicians?  A violent national strike?  None of those things, of course. The government was democratically elected with a massive majority in excess of two thirds, which incidentally provides them with a constitutional right to amend said constitution. Clearly a case which calls for the election of a new people.

Needless to say the worthies mentioned don't give two figs for democracy, human rights or judicial and media independence. The problem is that the Hungarians are rounding up a huge herd of sacred cows and leading them to the slaughterhouse.  For this reason some latter-day Oscar Wilde has dubbed that country The Goulash Gulag. Which is a bit ironic in that, as I see it, the memory of actual gulags in the not too distant past is a powerful contributor to the electorate's actions today.

Which directly leads me to another connect. I think it was the Wall Street Journal that thundered along the lines of 'any government that keeps Jews out of its upper ranks can not and will not succeed'.  Well, maybe, maybe not.  But you see Hungarians have still very clear memories of Jews 'in the upper reaches of government'.  These forces seized power in the immediate aftermath of both World Wars and not alone did they  allow Jews into their upper ranks, the upper ranks were in fact overwhelmingly Jewish.  Both governments immediately lapsed into tyranny and were overthrown amid great violence by an enraged people among conditions of great social upheaval.

So you can see why Hungarians might not enthusiastically endorse the WSJ.

My working assumption is that all of these forces, both openly and surreptitiously, will combine to crush this small, weak and terribly indebted country. So cue my amazement when I saw that they recently sold bonds worth more than $3 billion on the open market at reasonable rates.  How far this takes them remains to be seen. I for one wish them well.  More than that actually, I pray for their success.

79 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hi Savant,

Excellent piece. I, too, wish them all the best and will endeavor to have a hearty plate of goulash soon in honor of these outstanding people.

Viva Hungary!!!

All the best,

Tampa Bay Irish Pollack
(formerly Windy City I-P)

Olda said...

It might suprise many people in the west but it is known well here. Hungarians are the most hostile at jews of any people.

Keiser said...

""We won't allow either any international business lobby or the political forces that speak on their behalf to interfere with the decisions of the Hungarian parliament."

The dispute underscores the limited ability of the European Union to rein in its members, even when Brussels believes they risk breaching the EU's founding principles of rule of law and respect for human rights.


Imaging a boot stamping on the face of the EU... forever. You are imagining victory!

On another point

"In the past three years he has pushed through changes that opponents say undermine the independence of the media, central bank, judiciary and other institutions."

Undermining a central bank can only be a good thing. Who though of fractional reserve fiat currency in the first place, oh yeah the banks. People don't realise that the Financial markets have a very short memory.

Iceland gave the finger and got away with it. Biffo, Brian and Enda kissed the papal ring of the ECB/IMF and made the debt of the supposed experts in risk our own.

It really must be nice to gamble and have some one else pick up the tab.

I hope momentum gathers and like another "Arab Spring" Hungary inspires Europe.

I wouldn't bet on it though simply because I have no one to bail me out if I am wrong.

Anonymous said...

Have you seen this? Enoch Powell absolutely schooling David Frost:

Enoch Powell Interview Frost On Friday 1969

Enjoy it before they take it down!

Iamteiwaz said...

Hungary has the right to self determination irrespective of what we think. EU funding is cited with a few examples of strangeness from Orbán Viktor, there must be other points of conflict that aren't being related. Hungary has a long history of occupation, why are EU diktats any different?

I am Teiwaz.

John W said...

Take a look at the audience on that Enoch Powell interview. 100% white.

Hold it now and my guess? 35% white.

Anonymous said...

I read a bit of Krushchev's memoirs and he said that the Communist Parties of post WWII Eastern Europe were overwhelmingly controlled by Jews - and that that was the reason anti-semitism was so prevalent in Eastern Europe.

I have to find the book to post the reference and page number, but give me a day or so. If anyone else has the reference, feel free to post it.

James said...

"any government that keeps Jews out of its upper ranks can not and will not succeed"

Interesting quote. Are they trying to tell us there is a J conspiracy? What else could they be saying?

James said...

Look up Muhummad Ali's interviews with Frost as well.

If only we had WN leaders like Ali!

(He was set up to fail though, and fail he did. What they did was successfully marry black self-determination to Ali's boxing career. Once he couldn't box anymore, he couldn't lead blacks anymore and they failed to get anywhere since they had so much invested in his leadership- another reason why leaders are dangerous.)

Anonymous said...

Savant: “For this reason some latter-day Oscar Wilde has dubbed that country The Goulash Gulag. Which is a bit ironic in that, as I see it, the memory of actual gulags in the not too distant past is a powerful contributor to the electorate's actions today. But you see Hungarians have still very clear memories of Jews 'in the upper reaches of government'. These forces seized power in the immediate aftermath of both World Wars and not alone did they allow Jews into their upper ranks, the upper ranks were in fact overwhelmingly Jewish.”

David Irving-The 1956 Hungarian Uprising / Jewish Mentality!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvcfRXqkYuk

Frank Galton

Uncle Nasty said...

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God damn, Savant, but you sure pick 'em.

I went to the original article and howled with laughter at the lefty clichés and soundbites.

A few choice ones ...

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About 1,500 Orban opponents protested against the amendments on Monday evening in a square near the office of the Hungarian president, an Orban ally. The opposition though is too weak and divided to mount a serious challenge.

"Obviously, we can't achieve much," said Benjamin Markus, 23, one of the protesters. "But we are here because it's better than staying at home and doing nothing."


Benjamin Markus, hey?

Staying at home and doing nothing, eh? And far, far better than looking for a part time job between rent-a-crowd action, our Mr Markus might have said.

He has already been accused of risking economic stability after imposing hefty "crisis taxes" on foreign-owned businesses, of stacking institutions with his loyalists, and of stoking nationalist sentiment to win votes.

The outside world's levers of influence on Hungary are limited. ... But earlier this month the government sold $3.25 billion (2.1 billion pounds) worth of bonds, removing any need to call on Brussels or the International Monetary Fund for financial help in the near term.


Goddamn, they have come right out and said: jew bankers and rapacious capitalists need not apply. No Bernanke hanke-panke here.

Please read it yourself ... It's like listening to the guy who was caught burgling your house kvetching and whining because your rottweiler shredded his arse.

You will respond to every paragraph with: "... and your problem is...?"

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Franz said...

Actually had an uncle with personal memories of a gnat named Bela Kun... the man who tried to communize Hungary the first time. (Bela's last name originally spelled Cohen, it's been alleged.)

My uncle (RIP) was also one of the the reasons Bela Kun failed & died young. Loved my uncle!

AND... Hungary's on a winning streak: They ordered Monsanto's crap seeds destroyed --

http://naturalsociety.com/hungary-destroys-all-monsanto-gmo-corn-fields/

Keep it up, Hungary.

Uncle Nasty said...

A very interesting link, I feel:-

http://www.serendipity.li/zionism/whos_wagging_whom.htm

Among the correspondents is Edgar Steele who is currently being "gulaged" for want of a better term, by the law enforcement establishment in the US.

Scroll to:-

From: JB Campbell

John —

This [message from Ray Wilson] is an interesting summary of the roots of Zionist Palestine, as is the question about who's doing the wagging.

My version is similar but goes a little farther. Zionist (Russian Jew) fanaticism to invade and occupy Palestine and make the Law go forth from Zion predates the oil discoveries. This weird dream would prove useful to the money power.

The oil monopolists early saw that an oversupply of the product was ruining their price structure. Rockefeller constantly claimed "shortages" threatened his operations in Ohio and Indiana, as a way to keep prices up, when in fact Standard Oil was floating on an ocean of deposits. This scam was wrecked when the Spindletop wildcat blew in in East Texas. Oil prices went down!

The last thing Rockefeller (who was a wholly owned subsidiary of Rothschild of Frankfurt, Paris and London) wanted was for similar deposits to be found and produced in Russia or China or the Middle East. How to prevent such a catastrophe? Or at the very least, severely control any exploitation?

Rockefeller/Rothschild chose violence. John D. had employed violence, extortion and fraud in his control of railroad shipping in Ohio and Erie region. This gave him a monopolistic advantage over the smaller producers, many of whom were ruined. John D.'s motto: "Competition is a sin." And he meant it.

And so, a decision was made to support the Bolsheviks as the most cost-effective means to prevent the commercial exploitation of raw materials in Russia and all of central Asia. Lenin and Trotsky were sent into Russia to seize the Russian government from Kerensky. As the Red death squads began liquidating the upper and emerging middle classes of Russia, the country naturally ground to a halt. Wall Street pumped many millions of dollars to prop up the cancerous Jewish dictatorship and so kept Russia from ever developing her oil and minerals in a meaningful way. (Right up through the '80s, Russian oil rigs were like scenes from a comedy, with dozens of inept workers trying to do what a handful of American roughnecks normally and efficiently do. Kind of an oilfield kibbutz.)


Wheels within wheels within wheels ...

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Anonymous said...

Even mainstream historians find it difficult To explain away Bela Kuns' psychopathic savagery.

A couple even hint that his Jewishness was at least a factor:he hated the Hungarian people.

James,I have to disagree with you about Ali,not with what he said,but with his leadership potential.

Ali,who I once adored,was a puppet,a parrot,who spouted the 'party' line,in this case the NoI.

He was,in fact,of sub-normal intelligence(as his Draft scores show)and he allowed the NoI to steal not one,but two fortunes from him.The NoI plus,of course,the huge retinue of hangers on which all black athletes seem to find compulsory.

I'm not arguing with what Ali said,only that he was put out in front as a figurehead.

mr.a

jazzman said...

I have seen a rabbin on Youtube saying:
- As long as goyim fight against each others, it's OK, but when they oppose to jews, they oppose to God, their destiny is settled, their civilisation disappears.

He confuses cause and effect.
The story is:
The jew make goyim fight each other, because it's their usual way of subverting a civilisation.
The goyim usually see this too late, they throw the jews away, but their civilisation disappears anyway...

Shaunantijihad said...

"any government that keeps Jews out of its upper ranks can not and will not succeed"

...because the most important thing that your leaders should possess in order to secure success is an overbearing view of non-Jews as being two legged cattle, fit only for plunder.

Yep. A real recipe for success.

Perhaps the Italian Mafia should try that too. "Any government that keeps Italians out of its upper ranks can not and will not succeed. Or else. What! Are you an anti-spic? I'm not even religious!"

Shaunantijihad said...

I watched the Frost/Powell interview with interest. Frost reminds me of certain posters here.

In the overall framework of losing our civilisation to the black hordes that was the thrust of Powell vision of our day, Frost is continuously biting his toes about irrelevant minutiae, the meaning of a word here, the exact address of a person quoted there. As though winning an argument about the correct use of an apostrophe means that the country was not being colonised. What a shit.

Journalists hold a great deal of guilt. If Frost had been found the next day in a plastic bag it would have been better for the entire country.

Jerry said...

James, I don't think they're saying that there is a conspiracy, rather that any country that keeps jews out of the upper reaches is BAAAAD.

Anonymous said...

The sweet thing about the Powell interview is how he just crushes Frost again and again. His poise and command of the facts leaves Frosty looking like a pathetic crybaby.

Enoch was a brilliant, beautiful man.

Anonymous said...

Read: "Uprising! The Hungarian Revolution of 1956" by David Irving.
An account of white European people fighting back against the forces of Jewish tyranny.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/

Anonymous said...

They don't seem to like the mosquerats either. On a bus tour of Budapest we went past a church..
The commentry went something like this.......
"On the left you will see the Church of St Nicholas? It used to be a mosque"
The guide's face lit up in a triumphant smile.
Beautiful City, but bloody freezing in December!
Paris Claims

Anonymous said...

http://whiteresister.com/index.php/propaganda/179-welcome-to-ireland-or-is-it-nigeria-who-knows-anymore

Looks like Brixton

Paris Claims

Anonymous said...

Anon 13.07.

Thanks for that tip about Irvings 'Uprising'.

I've read quite a bit about '56 but was actually unaware that Irving had written on it.

mr.a

Anonymous said...

It's worse than one could know. The juedeo-zionists (Israel) timed their attack on Egypt to take attention away from Hungary thuis allowing the judeo-bolshevists to destroy the Magyars. As Douglas Reed wrote:

Mr. Nagy took refuge in the Yugoslav Legation, and on leaving it under Soviet safe-conduct was
deported some-whither, none knows where. The Cardinal took refuge in the American Embassy. At the end
of November the Cuban delegate to the United Nations, a well-informed authority, stated that 65,000 people
had been killed in Hungary.

Allan@Aberdeen

Anonymous said...

http://whiteresister.com/index.php/propaganda/179-welcome-to-ireland-or-is-it-nigeria-who-knows-anymore

Anonymous said...

Anon 13.00
Thanks for the Enoch Powell link.
Can you imagine that interview today? Enoch was definitely the best P.M. we never had. Where is the man that can fill his boots?

SAVANT said...

Frost is continuously biting his toes about irrelevant minutiae, the meaning of a word here, the exact address of a person quoted there.

Exactly. You get that all the time. And they also use emotive

eleos said...

Great post Savant. You continue to surprise and delight me with new information and new angles on so many subjects.

This one is a real gem. My grandmother was Hungarian but I never knew her unfortunately. Nor did I know any of this.

Cingoldby said...

I have always failed to understand why allowing Judges dictatorial powers to overrule democratically elected governments and to overturn laws established by votes of the people should be considered 'democratic'.

Odd how Judges making and breaking laws against the wishes of the people should be held up as something to be aspired to.

nastiestuncle said...

@Cingoldby 10:59

Well, they don't have dictatorial powers. Judges are bound to uphold the laws as they are. When a government tries to do something against the law, it is for the judges to do their job and disallow it. Parliament can then vote to change the law, in most cases.

That a government has been 'democratically elected' (a very loose term) is neither here nor there; they do not have the right to change laws as they see fit. Some changes to the law for example require a referendum.

Imagine the situation in which judges were not allowed to act as a block to government power: you would have a government come to power then go about changing laws on a whim, resulting in dictatorship.

Sometimes the judges use poor judgement, but usually the problem is with the laws. Each branch of government is supposed to act as a check to each other's power, so that one single arm cannot become too powerful.

Always remember the *general* rule: governments do not act in the interest of the people. This is why there are such things as judges to counteract the power of government.

kulak said...

@Cingoldby

Jefferson was right.

"In England, where judges were named and removable at the will of an hereditary executive, from which branch most misrule was feared and has flowed, it was a great point gained by fixing them for life, to make them independent of that executive. But in a government founded on the public will, this principle operates in an opposite direction and against that will. There, too, they were still removable on a concurrence of the executive and legislative branches. But we have made them independent of the nation itself."

Wolfhound said...

Good luck to Hungary.

Beautiful country full of stunning women by the way.

Cassius said...

Shaun on David Frost. I quote Thomas Pynchon


If they can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.

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Anonymous said...

Powell would be locked up today for saying some of the things he said to Frost on tv in 1969. Imagine if he could have said that to Frost when he was projecting what the UK would be like in the future. If any white person says some of the things I've just said to you on tv in this country in the early 21st century they will be locked up while blacks caught on video beating the shit out of a white girl calling her a white bitch go free cos the judge says they're not used to alcohol. Frost would have genuinely scoffed, he wouldn't have believed it. Not that he'd be too bothered about it today, he's been boiling slowly with the rest of the frogs for the last forty years. But if you could put the Frost of 1969 in a time machine and fast forward him to 2013, he would be bowled over.

Matrix-buster said...

Nastiest, you are correct up to a point. Where I have the difficulty is when judges actually make the law. In a de facto way, of course. Look at AA in the US, or 'disparate impact'. This has all been driven by Federal judges. In effect they made the laws.

Anonymous said...

Shaunantijihad said...
"I watched the Frost/Powell interview with interest. Frost reminds me of certain posters here.

In the overall framework of losing our civilisation to the black hordes that was the thrust of Powell vision of our day, Frost is continuously biting his toes about irrelevant minutiae, the meaning of a word here, the exact address of a person quoted there. As though winning an argument about the correct use of an apostrophe means that the country was not being colonised. What a shit."


That sums up the debate quite well.

On the topic of Muhammad Ali, here's another video (only 3 minutes) from the same era (1971) when free speech was the tone of the day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXEupeEMwyw

nastiestuncle said...

@Matrix-buster 23:59

Judges are supposed to clarify the law (when needed) and this is done often with test cases. Or in the case in which a law was unconstitutional they could throw a case out.

In the case of 'disparate impact', it would seem that the system has broken in that the politicians need to create a law around that. In this case, the citizen must step in. If enough of them contacted their representatives then there would be enough pressure to get this de facto law struck off or at least debated.
The system works when each branch overseeing another takes their job seriously.
In our democracies, the citizenry has forgotten that it is they who hold the power. Too many leisure pursuits I suppose. Too little time. Too complex?

Gem Junior said...

Anon 22:57
I really am amazed at your post, it puts it in such perspective. It would have been perfectly unimaginable just a few decades ago, in my lifetime, that things could change so in all white countries. That these changes in our worlds just happened to "evolve" in such a direction, without help, without a push, without utter brainwashing, is a stretch. In fact, nobody would have believed it and nobody did believe Powell. He must be turning in his grave - his 'I told you so' a very bitter victory. Thank God he is not alive to see this.

Gem Junior said...

Savant:
Thanks for this post about Hungary, it was quite an education for me. I knew nothing whatsoever about this country's past, or who Bela Kun (add a t) was. We don't get education about other countries here in the USA, every year we just learn about WWII over and over, with special emphasis on.....drum roll puh-leeezzz: The White Blond Nazi Thugs and The Evil Tortures They Imposed On The -Innocent Lambs - The Chosen People. Well, you get it. The Holocaust. I had to look up "goulash" as well. Sounds good!
Thank you again. Keep up this fantastic blog and it's great educational tidbits.

nastiestuncle said...

My niggers, I got this from niggermania.

http://niggermania.net/forum/showthread.php?51061-Wanna-wear-a-quot-white-privilege-quot-wristband

What the fuck: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wisconsin-s-vista-program-encourages-volunteers-overcome-white-privilege

I loved this comment though: "Niggers call it privilege...White people call it ambition, and I wont apologize for it, Fuck You niggers!".

Uncle Nasty said...

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Sort of on-topic ....

It appears that Joe McCarthy, like Enoch Powell, had it right after all.

http://ozziesaffa.blogspot.co.nz/2013/03/joe-mccarthy-was-right-all-along.html

13 March 2013

Joe McCarthy Was Right All Along
The Left frequently uses the word "McCarthyism" to stop any form of debate which they're losing.


Today the term is used more generally in reference to demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents.

Joe McCarthy was a Senator from Wisconsin from 1947-1957. He became famous for claiming that there were large numbers of Communists and Soviet spies and sympathisers within the US Federal government and elsewhere. McCarthy set his laser-beam focus on the infiltration of these Communists in the US government and this was dubbed the "Communist witch hunts".

One such case at the time was the Amerasia affair, which the FBI pursued. Many people were arrested and the FBI thought they had an open-and-shut espionage case. Or so they thought.

What followed was cover-up, perjury and grand-jury rigging by, among others, high-ranking Washington officials. Some of the cover-up was done by President Truman's office to avoid scandal. Others were acting to shield a far wider Communist-led conspiracy mounted by confederates inside the State Department, Treasury, White House and elsewhere in the US government, working not merely to filch secret documents but to ensure, through influence and subversion, the Communist takeover of China.

The Amerasia case was scuttled, the scandal was buried, and, within a few years, China was Red.


It's a good read.

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Uncle Nasty said...

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Enoch Powell was often referred to as a "Cassandra" by his enemies.

Perhaps if people had read the classics ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra

... they would have noted that Cassandra was cursed with the gift of accurate prophecy, but was fated by the gods to never have her prophecies believed -- until, of course, it was too late.

Equally interesting is that the word "irony" also has its roots in the original Greek.

We never learn.

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James said...

Tim Wise: evil.

http://vimeo.com/7908057

Jeremy said...

In our democracies, the citizenry has forgotten that it is they who hold the power.

No they do not. That is an illusion fostered by those who actually do have all the power.

As someone said, if voting changed anything it would be banned.

nastiestuncle said...

@Jeremy 10:58

Well, no.

If the citizens want the power they can have it. Numbers are stacked enormously in the citizens' favour. They have to want it. Try telling Ceaușescu or Gadaffi that large mobs of people have no power.

Dan said...

Chow Chess Coo was killed by belligerent coal miners.

In 1984 we saw exactly how much power the miners had. Zero. Now look at the north after the Commies were beaten down at the Orgreave Smelter.
China exports coals to us.
The place is full of coons and pakis. So much for the Tories protecting the English eh?
So called conservatives are actually genocidal maniacs backed up by the Daily Mail.

Anonymous said...

And now the Popes really is a jew..Didn't you predict this as well Savant?

Rohan Swee said...

I add my thanks for the link to the Frost/Powell video. It really is fascinating and illustrative: the only thing that changes with the bien-pensants is the position of the goalposts. When what they sneered at as wild paranoia in 1969 comes to pass, they blithely move them further out. The fundamentals remain constant:

1) Any and all unpleasantness resulting from immigration is due to "irrational" and "ignorant" natives, who need be "educated".

but

2) anyway it would all go away if only people would stop being so tasteless as to point out the facts of the matter.

Two interesting tidbits: First, Frost (who throughout demonstrates that it is possible for a man to be both silly and vile) is so outclassed by Powell that toward the end he is reduced to arguing that Powell's use of the word "offspring" to refer to the children of immigrants is perjorative and evidence of bigotry and "inflammatory" language. (Seriously. Watch the video. And here I thought that that level of Orwellian crazy talk was a late development.) Second, in trying to indict Powell for rabble-rousing, Frost essentially admits that immigration is turning British society into a powder keg, so dangerous that it must be handled with the utmost delicacy.

Unlike Powell, of course, he lacked the wisdom to ask why it was so very necessary to create the powder keg in the first place.

James said...

If only Powell had been on BUGS for a couple of years.

The whole interview was basically Powell trying to avoid guilt and defuse Frost's accusations.

Powell failed. He knows that. I don't blame him.

Mahummad Ali did way better in his arguments with Frost, but he failed too in the end.

Frost knew that time was on his side, and killing the white race is a million times easier than saving it, so he hardly had to lift a finger to win. He probably thought he was being exceedingly clever, but he had by far the easier job.

Cassius said...

I knew a guy who worked with Frost for a few years. He said he has no convictions whatsoever, just wants the big showbiz success. Just as likley to support Powell were the zeitgeist the other wasy around.

I believe that a huge number of so-called liberal pundits are like this. The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.


This would work to our advantage were we ever to regain some kind of power in the MSM. 'The best' would change their tack and come over to us once career benfits followed.

Uncle Nasty said...

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If you would like to see just how the deck can be stacked against you ... maybe you should read this PDF..

hhttp://www.scribd.com/doc/79197245/Trapped-in-a-Masonic-World

What does it have to do with Hungary's present predicament?

Everything.

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James said...

I believe that Frost may have been actually disappointed that Powell was such a push over.

The pro-white message is a pushover. Its like a house of cards built on sand when the guilt tsunami comes.

Frost destroyed Powell without raising a sweat and he didn't even have to think that hard.

We NEED to stop making it so easy for them.

If Powell was replaced by Bob Whitaker back in 58, then Frost might have changed his tune.

Powell had no answers to the most childish criticisms of his position (whatever that was exactly).

p.s. some WNs claim that Powell smashed Frost. Man that makes me laugh. Frost just sat there and watched Powell self-destruct.

kulak said...

As someone said, if voting changed anything it would be banned.

Why did white men agree to votes in the first place?

Not because they were weak, but because they were, individually, so strong.

Representative government REQUIRES that lots of men be dangerous. It requires lots of alphas.

That's why it was whites who took to it.

Voting doesn't change anything today because voting is no longer a SUBSTITUTE for violence.

Corkonian said...

Voting doesn't change anything today because voting is no longer a SUBSTITUTE for violence


Excellent observation kulak. Never thought about it that way. Which saddens me in that obviously blacks HAVE thought about it, even if only in an inarticulate way.

SAVANT said...

Tampa Bay Irish Pollack
(formerly Windy City I-P)

How do you like your new environment?

kulak said...

Hi Corkonian

Never thought about it that way.

Seems obvious once you frame it that way, right?

The Magna Carta was not a gift.

Anonymous said...

James says...

"Powell failed. He knows that. I don't blame him".

Mahummad Ali did way better in his arguments with Frost, but he failed too in the end.

If you're referring to this video, first, the British interviewer is not David Frost (don't know who he is). Secondly, Mahummad Ali won that debate hands down!

Also, Powell did not fail in this '69 Frost debate.

Under the circumstances of deflecting Frost's relentless minor points of attack, Powell did exceedingly well in his defensive posture. Similar to a betting casino's house rules, the house (Frost) being on the offensive side, always holds a slight advantage over his rival. Devious Frost simply tried every way of entrapping Powell into admitting that he was a "racialist" (racist).

Plus, the useless idiot in the audience who challenged Powell on his expression of "taking over neighbourhoods" (or something) was just another childish example of denouncing someone as a "racist" (whatever that means).

Comparing the Britain of today with the Britain of 44 years ago, who actually won the Powell/Frost debate? Say no more!

Your powers of observation appear to be somewhat disjointed, IMO.

Krokodil said...

I am struck by how utterly brilliant Powell was in the interview with David Frost back in '69.

An intellectual heavyweight of the first order! How utterly pathetic and contemptuous are/were the feeble men-of-straw who govern Britain today or in the recent past!

Not vaguely in the same league! (Except Mrs T, of course).

James said...

My mistake, it was Michael Parkinson who interviewed Ali.

Could have been Frost though, he said all the same things.

James said...

Anonymous,

Taking a "defensive posture" may not be failure, but it aint success either.

If you think he did succeed, then please point out the exact nature of his success and the practical changes which occurred as a consequence.

Otherwise, just admit that he did not succeed at all.

What exactly was he attempting to "succeed" at anyway. Did he even have a plan?

James said...

Ali did NOT WIN against Parkinson. Did Parkinson admit defeat? NO! He simply said "OK you are a tough nut to crack old boy, but I've got time on my side, don't you worry about that. This issue is undecided at the moment, but when it is finally decided your arguments will be in the dustbin of history."

Parkinson is in the might=right camp now. Where's Ali now? His side lost big time.

Maybe Ali outmaneuvered Parkinson and didn't get beaten, but he didn't beat Parkinson at all. Parkinson stood his ground and lost barely a skin cell off his nose from the scuffle.

kulak said...

You're right James.


Powell was an intellectual heavyweight who LOST.

James said...

Exactly right Kulak.

Surviving the 21st century will outshine all of the White race's previous achievements if we can do it.

It will take more than one man arguing on TV.

Much, much more.

James said...

When you are forced to argue about how many poos are being put in letterboxes, I'd say you are losing the ability to steer the argument in your preferred direction - which means you are losing the argument.

Powell was in fact forced to argue about exactly how many poos were being pushed into mail slots (and he was on the defensive too), and this is a sure sign of lack of victory if there ever was one.

Dan said...

The way to win a debate like that is to shoot the interviewer. Short of that blackmail him.

That's how politics works.

Uncle Nasty said...

The trick to debating a hostile interviewer is ...

A. Have ALL the facts, figures, quotes, references, etc., at your fingertips.

B. Be thoroughly single minded. Do not allow the interviewer to hop around like a demented grasshopper, cherry picking his quotes out of context, and attempting to derail your answers with inconsequentialities.

C. Force the interviewer to stay on the subject -- a favourite trick of theirs is to detect when the answers they are getting are too close to the mark ... and, once again derail the conversation.

D. Brook no interruptions. If an interviewer does persist, accuse them of trying to frame the debate by constantly reducing the scope of your answers.

E. Never give your opponent a chance -- destroy them by any means possible.

F. A sure way of derailing the conversation is to toss the ball back into their court. The best one is:- "Holocaust denier? Me? Define the Holocaust please ..."

Then watch them squirm.

Debating, is by definition an art and a science. Don't forget that some of the greatest debaters have learned the art of sophistry from hundreds of years of experience. The Jesuits were astonishing debaters ... mainly because they were marrano jews who were the first infiltrators of the Catholic church.
They invented sophistry.
Yup. It does go back that far ... and further.

The Frosts, Parkinsons and Dimbleby's would have been annihilated by, say Rockwell, Henry Ford or Lindbergh.

Or today by Kevin MacDonald, (TOO) or Jeff Rense.

Which is why you will never see the soundbiters like Maher take on anyone of that calibre ... they like to pick their victims, and never, ever punch above their weight.

As another poster stated brilliantly a while back, the jews hate the internet -- because they can't interrupt you.

UN

Completely off topic BTW .... check out the new training targets being issued to the DHS

No, this is NOT a drill.

http://incogman.net/2013/03/wake-up-and-smell-the-stinking-gelfiti-fish/white-people-as-targets/

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Dan said...

Powell looks like a prophet. Frost looks like a fag.

James said...

"Define the Holocaust please..."

OK, if you were asked this on TV, in the hot seat, what would you say?

The Holocaust is the deliberate extirmination of 6 million people, mostly Jews, mostly by gassing, during WW2, by the Nazis, in concentration camps.

Do you deny that this happened?

James said...

"Powell looks like a prophet. Frost looks like a fag."

So none of Frost's predictions came true at all?

Uncle Nasty said...

Sorry ... further to my last, I realise that I forgot to include the point:-

Debating is an intensive skill, art, whatever you may call it.

And not everyone, even the most brilliant, can do it. They simply do not have the gift.

UN
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James said...

So Uncle Nasty, how would you debate this:


"The Holocaust is the deliberate extirmination of 6 million people, mostly Jews, mostly by gassing, during WW2, by the Nazis, in concentration camps.

Do you deny that this happened?"

tsnamm said...

Enoch Powell was often referred to as a "Cassandra" by his enemies.

Perhaps if people had read the classics ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra

... they would have noted that Cassandra was cursed with the gift of accurate prophecy, but was fated by the gods to never have her prophecies believed -- until, of course, it was too late.

Equally interesting is that the word "irony" also has its roots in the original Greek.

We never learn.

UN
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Uncle Nasty you are simply brilliant! And no we don't...Santayanas observation still holds true...whoever said ignorance was bliss?

tsnamm said...

From the Reuters article i found interesting..."Independence of constitutional courts" is a shared EU value is it? Is a stacked deck a shared value also? Amazingly all of these courts constantly expand the powers of the government and consistently come to the exact same decisions, especially in matters of culture and social policy. But that must be a coincidence; or perhaps they have all been enlightened simultaneously towards benevolent public policy ... but of course that isn't anti democratic is it? Until of course whites are marginalized sufficiently and or outnumbered in the countries they built. At that point the decisions will take a remarkably different bent... nothing to see here...move along..

UNcle Nasty said...

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James said...

So Uncle Nasty, how would you debate this:

"The Holocaust is the deliberate extirmination of 6 million people, mostly Jews, mostly by gassing, during WW2, by the Nazis, in concentration camps.

Do you deny that this happened?"
19 March 2013 00:22


Of course I deny it. Do you not read my posts?

UN
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Redman said...

James, you seem a bit, make that very, slow on the uptake if you think UN accepts your proposition.

Anonymous said...

http://www.jobbik.com/g%C3%A1bor_vona_when_last_straw_breaks_camels_back

Finally politicians with a backbone. Fuck Israhell and fuck EU!
Hail victory!

Anonymous said...

Hungary has suffered terrible massacres by Jewish commissars so they are in full to protest against the toxic jewish influence.

James said...

Redman,

It is not ME who is slow on the uptake my good man, it is YOU.

I asked him how he would debate the proposition, not if he agrees with it (It is obvious he does not). And I mean debate, like what happens in an actual debate, not some on-going discussion on some obscure blog.

So, I'll ask again, how would you refute this proposition to a news reporter or interviewer, in less than 2 minutes, in the hot seat, on TV?

Has anyone thought through exactly how this could be done? What would you say? And is what you would say quick, believable, and so exceedingly clever it makes the enemy shit a brick?

No, nobody here knows what to say, and the enemy need not worry judging by the stupidity I've seen on display here on this blog sometimes.

Note that I never called it my proposition, and never stated that I agree with it either. I merely presented it as the central intellectual barrier in this particular part of the white/jewish struggle, and asked for ways of defeating it. Try thinking for a change, rather than reacting like a typical WN sniffing out unorthodoxy like a truffle hunting pig.

James said...

I was asked to "define the Holocaust". I duly submitted this:

The Holocaust is the deliberate extirmination of 6 million people, mostly Jews, mostly by gassing, during WW2, by the Nazis, in concentration camps.

I believe that is the standard definition, is it not? Quick and to the point. Easily remembered, repeated, learnable by school children.

It is a highly effective piece of propaganda. What exactly has whitey got for a counter argument? 100 postings on a blog? 10 different websites, plus 88 youtune vids, hours of arguing?

I even ask for people to put their heads together to create one. I asked Uncle Nasty for a quick summary of his position. He couldn't do it.

I rest my case.